Invasive Treatment Review - Surgical Eye Bag Removal By Dr Woffles Wu - PART 2
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As most of you are aware that I have recently done my very first surgical procedure - eye bag removal by Dr Woffles Wu in end May 2010. And I believe you have read my Part One review @ - Invasive Treatment Review - Surgical Eye Bag Removal By Dr Woffles Wu - PART 1.
As promised, here is my Part Two review on this surgical eye bag removal treatment. And I guess many of you have been eagerly awaiting for this follow-up review for a long time. Yes my bad, I’m taking years to post this part 2. Hehe….
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Day 18
(a recall from the previous post)

My review appointment with Dr Wu today. I have bought up my concerns on the severe dark eye circles and sunken areas (indention). He claimed that the dark areas are due to blood stasis (staining) from the operation. These darkness will disappear in a couple of weeks.
The indention (see pic below) is due to swelling on both areas just below my lower eyelashes and right below the sunken area. It is believed that when both swellings are gone, the sunken area will look plump up naturally. Well I will give them the benefit of a doubt. The bloodshot on my left eye has reduced in size.

The dark eye circles were so bad that even concealer was not able to cover up the darkness.
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Week 4

The dark circles were still as bad. The bloodshot on the left eye has significantly reduced. The mini eye bags and sunken (indention) areas for both eyes are still obvious. Hiaz!
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Week 5 1/2

The dark circles has superficial reduced a little. The bloodshot on the left eye was almost recovered. I was still troubled with the indention, they make me look tired and aged. Sign……..
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Week 8

Today, I went to Dr Wu’s clinic for my second review and this image above was taken by Dr Wu. After a quick examine, he claimed he has noticed some improvements and suggested that in order for me to look even more younger, he would like to inject minimal fillers (1/2 vial) to plump up the areas just right below the eye socket (inner cheek areas beside the nose). Don’t ask me why I couldn’t say NO and eventually I went ahead with his suggestion. The result? I can’t tell the different before and after with that 1/2 vial of fillers. Money wasted!
Finally, the bloodshot on my left eye has completely gone! Somehow I feel that the mini eye bags have became more prominent and that make my indention even more visible even from a distance away. Feeling upset about it actually
….. Although the overall dark eye circles have reduced significantly but the dark patches right below the mini eye bags (where the indention areas are) are still noticeable. I reckon these darkness are caused from a shadow cast by the mini eye bag or the lack of fat pads under the skin that make it less transparent and that create a hollowed-out look in under-eye area.
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Week 10

The dark circles are back to the previous condition as per before the treatment. They are still visibly dark (which I’m used to it) but not as bad as the blood stasis (staining) result right after the operation (see Day 18). The mini bags and the indention are still noticeable. I was told earlier that generally it will need six months or longer to see actual full result. Well, I guess I have to wait patiently to see ‘them’ disappear soon.
Overall, I’m quite satisfied with the result, the bags and puffiness are gone! But I just hope that the mini eye bags and hollowed-out look will be gone in the coming two or three months’ time. Will probably do an update again soon.
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50 Comments
Luna
September 14th, 2010 at 11:25 am
I think the dark circles will remain there for a couple of months. I just did my eyelid surgery and now that it’s been 4 months, my dark circles are still there, but better than before.
I think it should be the skin trauma
It should be healed in a couple of months!
Good luck to you!
Shirleen
September 14th, 2010 at 12:25 pm
Hi Luna,
I’m now on my second and a half month, the dark circles have improved quite a bit. It all thanks to my daily meticulous care with 7 points eye massage.
Hopefully to do a final review after 2-3 months time.
mel wee
October 14th, 2010 at 9:17 am
Hi Shirleen,
I believe the procedure you did with Woffles Wu is known as transconjunctival eyebags removal. It’s nothing special about what he did. Many other competent plastic surgeons can perform that at less than half the fees.
I just did the conventional type and had some skin excised and fat redistributed. It has been two weeks and my results has been amazing. My point is, there are many good plastic surgeons out there who can produce very good results at less than half of the fees you have paid. Woffles Wu is not “THE ONLY ONE”
Shirleen
October 14th, 2010 at 1:58 pm
Hi Mel Wee,
Yes I agree with you that he’s not the only good plastic surgeon in Singapore. I have a reader who has posted his/her bad experience with Dr Wu at my eyebag review post Part 1.
You may want to share with us on who are the good plastic surgeons in Singapore that my readers can consider.
mel wee
October 14th, 2010 at 3:33 pm
Hi Shirleen,
My Plastic Surgeon is Dr Seah Chee Seng of Gleneagles. I paid a very decent fees of $3900+ for the surgery inclusive of Gst, medications and follow ups. No other hidden costs and “HE IS NOT PUSHY” about selling products!!! No mention of that at all. My heart aches for the kind of money you had to pay for your surgery and other eye care products.
Many of my friends have had work done by Dr Seah and all are very happy with the results. He is very honest and competent.
Shirleen
October 14th, 2010 at 3:49 pm
Hi Mel Wee,
Thanks for sharing with us. Yes, it’s really heart pain to spend so much on him. I’m fine to spend so much on the eyebag surgery and the 4 eye products but not botox (on the eyebrow) and fillers on the inner cheek areas. The botox and fillers are completely waste of my money. I really regret doing that.
Sophie
March 26th, 2011 at 6:54 pm
Hi Shirleen,
I tried many expensive eye creams and masks but they mostly do not work. However, I am now using 3 of the 4 eye creams that you mentioned in Part 1 (for a month now), along with swimming almost everyday (also started in the last 3 weeks) and drinking plenty of water! I am allergic to the 4th eye cream (PCA skin).
I’m not sure if it is the eye creams, swimming or water, but my fine lines are less noticeable, my eye bags are less puffy and my dark circles are not as dark as before. I use less cover up now. And my husband told me that I look younger and fresh. So thank you for sharing with us what you are using. I can postpone surgery (for now)!
I bought the 4 eye creams for less money (total $550) by searching for cheaper suppliers online.
Shirleen
March 27th, 2011 at 12:31 am
Hi Sophie,
Oh my! 4 eye creams at only $550? Smart you!
I actually like the 4th product (PCA Skin), my favorite among the 4. Not too sure if the allergy is caused by chlorine in the pool.
kzlove
April 11th, 2011 at 10:48 pm
Hi Shirleen,
I really enjoy reading you blog:D
Infact the reason why I chanced upon your blog was due to the decision of having my puffy lower eyelids removed too. I have heard about how accentric this Dr woffles is.
It has been more than a year since you had the surgery. May I ask if you had noticed any significant change in the lower eyelids when you smile? Does it still look puffy?
Cheers,
KZ
Shirleen
April 12th, 2011 at 1:06 am
Hi Kzlove,
I’m glad you enjoyed reading my post.
There’s no significant change so far. However, the indention on the lower eyelid areas still look visible though.
kzlove
April 12th, 2011 at 1:55 am
Hi Shirleen,
Many thanks for your reply:)
Do you mean the sunken part of your lower eyelids? How come Dr woffles did not do anything about it?
For my case, the lower eyelid tends to be very protruding whenever I smile. I always look tired all the times even I try to sleep slightly more than 8hours every day and spend less time serving internet. But I gave up because the problem won’t go away.
Shirleen
April 12th, 2011 at 5:18 pm
Hi Kzlove,
Yes, the sunken part is on the lower & inner eyelid areas. Dr Woffles did notice the indention but he didn’t suggest anything at all. I reckon he has removed too much fat from the area.
Occasionally, I do notice minor protruding fat pad whenever I smile too.
kzlove
April 13th, 2011 at 1:05 am
Hi Shirleen,
I have emailed to both Dr woffles and Dr JJ chua, and I will most probably visit both of them to compare their advices and suggestion. I would not want any fillers though as I’ve heard that it does not give permanent result.
Many many thanks for your time to reply Shirleen. I must say you really don’t look like your age(You mentioned that you are in your 40s). you look like you are in early 30s. Keep it up your good work to maintain your youthfulness:D
God bless and keep posting
Cheers!~
Shirleen
April 13th, 2011 at 6:31 pm
Hi Kzlove,
Thanks for your compliment, I’m flattered.
Do update us on the outcome can.
See ya soon.
Layla
June 28th, 2011 at 11:25 am
Hi Shirleen,
Happy to have stumbled your review as I had contemplated going to Dr WW. I am definitely not now after reading about your experience as well as others who had suffered under him. Hope you’re more happy and accepting of your results now though!
Shirleen
June 28th, 2011 at 10:35 pm
HI Layla,
Actually, the indention on the lower & inner eyelid appears slightly less obvious now, I’m not too sure if it’s due to the recent botox near the area.
meixin
September 11th, 2011 at 5:46 am
Hi Shirleen,
Did the indention appear less obvious gradually after the surgery though? Compared to right after the surgery? I too had a recent eyebag removal and there is a slight indention not very obvious unless when a shadow was cast over my face so I am hoping it would even out with time. I keep my fingers crossed it wont get worse instead..
Shirleen
September 11th, 2011 at 1:10 pm
Hi Meixin,
I guess I’m having the same problem as you. The slight indention is not very obvious unless I look closer in the mirror or there’s a shadow cast over my face.
It’s been a year now and the indention somewhat appears less obvious. Unfortunately, the indention never seems to go away.
meixin
September 11th, 2011 at 4:23 pm
Hi Shirleen,
I just had my surgery less than 1 week ago actually, to be honest I was surprised your downtime took so long and u were in such bad shape, for me there was very little to none bruising. Minimal pain. Just a dull ache. My eyes weren’t affected, no bloodshot eyes like yours and I have very sensitive eyes to begin with. I actually went shopping in orchard right after the procedure! Was very pleasantly surprised this wasn’t much of an ordeal at all. And the doctor put me to sleep throughout the entire process so I am glad! The swelling/puffiness was worst the 2nd day, but you still could not guess I had surgery, it looks more like a food allergy reaction if u get what I mean. I had the procedure on wednesday, today is sunday, the swelling is about 50% gone now. I wasn’t prescribed any antibiotics, eyedrops or steriods. I paid 60 dollars for a packet of tranexamic acid tablets which helps with the bruising and swelling alot. Just completed the course so nothing now but my vitamins.
I couldn’t quite decide if the indention is there, its only on one eye, sometimes it seems to be there when I look very closely, other times under normal lighting I can’t see anything at all. So its very slight and I hope it will even out totally when my swelling is totally gone. But no matter what I am really really excited with my results! I hope you don’t mind me being frank, your indention is not very slight according to the photos, I would be very unhappy with this Dr Wu if I were you, especially when you paid such a high price (definitely way above market rate) for this surgery.
meixin
September 11th, 2011 at 4:40 pm
oh between I could be wrong, later when I woke I asked the nurse and they didn’t use any stitches on me, they used a laser to make a small incision on my inner eyelid. I would ask the doctor more about it on my review, was too busy to see him for this week. I would ask him on the slight indention as well. Maybe you can consider to approach another doctor (I hope not this Dr Wu) for fat transplant or restylane fillers for the indention if it bothers you? For me I would need to wait till all the swelling and bruising come down before I see the full results and decide if I need to, I forgot to thank you for such a great informative post! I really enjoyed reading your blog! thank you!
Shirleen
September 12th, 2011 at 12:57 am
Hi Meixin,
Thanks for sharing your experiences with us. And thanks for being frank, no worry I’m not angry hee hee…….to be frank with you, at times when I looked at the indention I will get pissed off with Dr Wu. How could he remove so much fat knowing it will cause indention.
I’m really amazed that you didn’t really suffer much trauma like me. I’m very curious to know who’s your doctor, seems like he’s doing a pretty good job.
Sophie
September 14th, 2011 at 8:14 pm
Hi Shirleen,
Earlier, I bought the 4 eye creams that you used (out of which I used 3, and gave my 4th one to my husband). He absolutely loved the one that you liked too!
My fine lines are still there and I still have eye bags, but the eye creams are actually great. I have fewer under eye milia white spots than I used to, I guess the creams are not oil based or something and this helps.
Anyways, I’ve decided to bite the bullet and have the surgery tomorrow! I’m nervous! I want to ask you and your readers what to recommend (vitamins, creams, eye mask or anything), that will help with recovery, as well as anything to avoid.
I’m 32 years old, the rest of my skin is ok. I have fine lines under my eyes, and it looks even worse when I smile. I guess botox will have to do for the dynamic lines. I also have acne scars on my temples, and two frown lines between my eyes.
Tomorrow, I will be getting the transconjuctival method done (lasering the lower inner eye lid method), as well as erbium laser skin resurfacing under my eyes. I will ask the plastic surgeon to also laser my temples to improve the acne pit holes and the frown lines between my eyes. I worry that if I do not get my under eyes layered, I will end up with even more fine lines that even expensive eye creams cannot fix.
Your post was incredibly informative on what to expect, although my plastic surgeon is not Dr. Wu. I shall update you if the two operations together makes a difference in due course.
Shirleen
September 15th, 2011 at 1:24 am
Hi Sophie,
You are most welcome.
I’m so excited for you, hope everything will be fine for you. I believe the doctor will recommend you an eye cream or medication to help improve the healing process.
I do have fine lines on my lower eyelid areas too. I’m still searching for the best skincare or non-invasive treatment to help reduce them permanently.
I’ve actually tried mild Botox injection on my lower eyelid which helps reduce deep lines when I smile. It does work but the result is only temporary which I didn’t like. I hope to find a permanent solution soon.
Sparkle
September 16th, 2011 at 3:23 pm
hey Shirleen, all i can say is…. you are so BRAVE!!!i appreciate the honest reviews you have given… it makes me rethink about high levels reputation & costs may not be equivalent to the same levels of results.
i’m thinking of browlift surgical procedure in the near future, still not sure who should i consult apart fr andrew tay but for sure, i’ll go to at least 3 PS before deciding.
Sparkle
September 16th, 2011 at 3:26 pm
@mel wee, hi, were you the one who did a review on Dr Seah on flowerpod under eyebag removal thread? i’m researching on this PS… thanks
Sophie
September 19th, 2011 at 8:39 pm
Hi Shirleen,
I got my eyebags removed by scarless method & under eye area lasered by Dr AT only 4 days ago. No bloodshot eyes, minimal bruising. Most of swelling is gone. And my fine lines, what fine lines! And bagless eyes! Skin still pink after laser as expected. Seriously, i am very happy with results so far, & its only been 4 days! I’m glad i finally did it.
Shirleen
September 20th, 2011 at 1:06 am
Hi Sparkle,
Instead of surgical browlift, you may want to check out the non-invasive method - botox browlift. But I’m not too sure if it actually works. Here’s a ref link : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUfNL_dxXTk&NR=1
Hi Sophie,
Dr AT seems pretty good too. How did he remove the fine lines? Using laser?
Sophie
September 20th, 2011 at 7:46 am
He used Erbium laser, however dynamic fine lines are better treated with botox.
Shirleen
September 20th, 2011 at 10:23 am
Hi Sophie,
Thanks. Sounds tempting, I’m actually quite interested to try the Erbium laser with Dr AT too. If you don’t mind, may I have his contact? Many thanks.
Sophie
September 20th, 2011 at 2:21 pm
Hi Shirleen,
He works at Novena Medical Center (www.andrewtay.com.sg). I suggest allowing at least 5-7 days or more downtime, cos you can’t wear makeup or sunscreen until skin heels. Now at Day 5 post surgery, I am still not ready to leave my home yet due to the laser. BTW, I do not work for him, just sharing my experience.
Shirleen
September 20th, 2011 at 9:49 pm
Thanks Sophie. I will probably check him out soon.
Sparkle
September 21st, 2011 at 6:57 pm
hey Shirleen, i’m leaving u a pte fb msg later about browlift…
I’ve some comments on Dr AT. i see him on & off for various stuff but all non-invasive treatments la. i feel that he’s indeed professional and has a pair of steady hands for injections, i feel that you can trust him on injections of sorts. He really knows exactly what he’s doing.
in terms of aesthetics equipment and even types of filliers, after a while, you will start to realise he’s not one to chase after the market trends. he’s likely to keep to stuff that he’s comfortable using & administering. for instance, even tho doctors here started using Ultherapy since 2009 and now quite a number of them are using Zeltiq, he does not bring all these tools in. and for fillers, as far as i know, he’s using juvederm mainly. he does not even do chemical peels personally. i was a little disappointed as I would expect that even if he does not do that, he should at least check on the patients’ reaction to the chemicals personally, i don’t think this is alot to ask for?
i think his main focus is really on surgery. after all, he’s not an aesthetics doctor, he’s a plastic surgeon. so he probably works alot harder on keeping up to things related to plastic surgery. so i’m not complaining but i’m giving my honest feedback
Shirleen
September 21st, 2011 at 10:36 pm
Hi Sparkle,
Woof! Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts and experiences with us. I believe WLB readers will thank you for that.
Yes I agree with you, he should at least check on the patients’ condition if he’s not doing the treatment. For non-invasive treatment such as IPL, laser or chemical peels, I will ensure the doctor is the one who’s performing the treatment. I will not even go ahead if he’s not doing the job.
meixin
September 22nd, 2011 at 2:14 am
Hi Shirleen,
Sorry to have taken so long to reply I was out of Singapore, yup thats right I went out of town a week after surgery! Thats how amazing it was :p Its now about 2 weeks, I be resuming all my normal activities tomorrow (gym, steambaths, contact lens)
Answering your question, my doctor is Dr Medora who operates at camden medical centre. This is the number if anyone needs it. Yes his a very talented and caring doctor, he did my rhinoplasty for me few years ago and even my very conservative mom who is much against cosmetic surgery has to agree my enhanced nose looks beautiful!
I also confirmed that he used an ultrasonic to make a small hole inside my eyelid, he used a few stitches to hold it together which were removed before I woke up, because of this technology the tiny wound sealed up by the end of the surgery so no stitches are needed
I would recommend tranexamic acid tablets for your readers to help a faster recovery. Well, according to my doctor that stuff worked a major part in my super fast healing. But according to my own research, the extent of your bruising and swelling depended largely on how “heavy-handed” and skilled your surgeon was. The lighter his touch, the less bruising. Eyebag removal is a very delicate procedure, its easy to remove too much fat, resulting in fine lines and indention. So I guess Dr Wu was careless in the surgery. It peeved me that he actually took the opportunity of his surgical mishap to fleece more $ out of u. (the expensive eye creams) A good plastic surgeon should never behave like that! He sounds more like a high class salesman than a responsible doctor who cares about his patients.
And trust me, I know what I am talking about as I am no newbie to plastic surgeries. I had a rhinoplasty, fat removal from cheeks, most recently eyebag removal and a sliding genioplasty (done by a maxillofacial surgeon) Before each procedure I would do extensive research before deciding. Thats what I would recommend to all ladies out there. Don’t just consult one doctor. I consulted 4 maxillofacial surgeons and 2 plastic surgeons before I actually decided to go ahead with the genioplasty and I am very pleased with the results. She is Dr Juliet Tay who also operates at camden. I am usually very shy and low profile about my cosmetic surgeries but I just had to comment because I felt injustice at the way you were treated by Dr Wu!
Lastly, many people seems to have this misconception: famous surgeon = good surgeon. Oh come on, being famous only means that you know the right people in the media and make the right connections. And they are willing to promote u. And you love the fame and attention. Don’t be surprised, there are truly great doctors who actually refuse to be thrown in the limelight, preferring to spend more time in patient care and polishing their surgical skills than going on some silly tv show. Thats just my 2 cents worth so I hope no offence to any Dr Wu fans out there.
I am sorry for any typos, really rushing through this one as I am due for bedtime XD. Oh I would recommend some vitamins to speed up recovery for any readers who plan to have this surgery as well. Vitamin C and E and emu oil capsules which really help with inflammation. Eat lots of carrots, its good for the eyes, I acted like a bunny during that week
meixin
September 22nd, 2011 at 2:16 am
Oops forgot the number I promised : 68366035
Shirleen
September 23rd, 2011 at 1:35 am
Hi Meixin,
Wow, your recovery is really short! Were you on general anaesthesia during the procedure? Dr Wu only gave me local anaesthesia and I have to endure and witness the whole terrified operation right before my eyes. Yes, I’m actually felt kind of regret to have gotten Dr Wu to remove my eyebags. I hate the indention. And I also felt heart pain of spending so much on all those eye creams!
Thanks for sharing great tips on speedy recovery.
meixin
September 23rd, 2011 at 3:00 am
Hi Shirleen,
Yup! I will let u in on another little secret, I purposely arranged my surgery on the day my whole family went on vacation (basically I didnt want mom and dad to worry and make a fuss) I did it on Wed, and by Sunday night they were back and NONE of them ever guessed I had surgery 4 days ago! My mom did wonder abit why I am wearing glasses instead of my usual contact lens but so far the cat isn’t out of the bag :p
Perhaps its the tranexamic acid, I was instructed to start it 2 days prior the procedure for best results, I don’t know. But I had 2 previous surgeries done by this doctor and according to my memory there were bruises for a few days but I didn’t suffer that bad, back then there weren’t any tranexamic acid, I was given steriods and antibiotics instead and I’m glad I don’t need these medications this time round, I worry about the side effects of them, esp steriods.
Right now I am very pleased with my results, it turns out very natural. Yes I was under GA and felt nothing at all, just like waking up from a pleasant sleep to prettier eyes, with really friendly experienced nurses who took excellent care of me. I really wonder why! For all the money Dr Wu got from you I would have thought it be pretty decent to put u under GA instead of local, I certainly won’t want to be traumatized by such a terrifying procedure. Didn’t you request for GA?
Don’t fret, I am sure something can be done for your indention, if you like me to ask the doctor what options are avail for such a problem when I see him again (probably in a mth) just holler and I will keep it in mind.
Dr Andrew Tay was one of the PS I visited last time when I was considering my genioplasty! I recalled him as professional. And he took the time to reply all my emails in meticulous detail. However I didn’t actually have anything done by him so I can’t comment. But the 1st impression was pretty good.
Shirleen
September 23rd, 2011 at 3:30 pm
Hi Meixin,
Hahaha!! You did it at the right time.
I did ask him and he claimed that GA is not required and local should be good enough for this eyebag removal surgery. I reckon he didn’t want to give me GA as I was the second last customer on that day. Actually I was asked to reach the clinic at 2pm and I have to wait till 4+5 for the procedure. Bad planning.
Yes, you may ask your doctor if there’s any solution to indention. Thanks.
I guess fillers may help to pump up the indention but I never like fillers on eyes though and it’s temporary anyway.
meixin
September 24th, 2011 at 1:53 am
Hi Shirleen,
Once again, I am appalled, NOT GOOD at all! This is not the right way to treat a patient, I am having cosmetic surgery for christ sake, not a dental appointment. Surgery should never ever be rushed or poorly planned. My surgeries by Dr M were always arranged in the mornings. They set it as a rule : All major procedures must be in the mornings. The nurse explained to me this is to allow the patient sufficient time to recover in the clinic. And they do have a most comfortable recovery room with heated blanket (upon request) and massage chair! I almost didnt wanna leave!
Their service is also excellent, special credit to Merlene and keng kee, they are always making sure I am comfortable and less nervous, offering me food and drinks.
I recalled my genioplasty performed by Dr JT was also scheduled in the morning so I was allowed sufficient time to rest afterwards, but they booked the operating theatre at Novena Medical as they don’t have their own so I had to pay an extra 2000 over for the facilities so abit of a downside.
Your welcome, I be seeing him again for permanent fillers in my cheekbones. Actually had temporary fillers a year ago and I like the look of it so I have decided to go for the permanent ones. But I am not sure if they have anything permanent for eye area, I will help u ask and update any infos I got here
Shirleen
September 24th, 2011 at 4:10 pm
Hi Meixin,
I didn’t get to enjoy this kind of special service at all! Envy envy…. Dr Wu has many overseas customers and they usually come with their luggage and the nurses pay a lot of attention to them. Maybe I’m just a “small flies” hence no special service.
I remembered I only got to rest in the operation room for less than 10 minutes and I was asked to leave the clinic immediately as it was almost 6pm I guess. My skin was still very raw and my eyes could hardly open wide when I left the clinic.
meixin
October 6th, 2011 at 11:34 pm
Hi Shirleen,
I’m also a small fly compared to Indonesian customers with high spending power but at the clinic I felt everyone is treated equally, not an ounce of snobbery or fawning in him or his staff. Patient care is their top priority, no matter how much your treatment cost. Thats why I keep going back all these years.
I will stop here, I don’t want to sound like I am advertising for them. I am just grateful for all the wonderful things they done for me.
Ok I had my cheek fillers yesterday! Still abit sore today. But, I am glad I did it!
It makes me look so fresh. The eyes are completely healed by now.
I described your problem to the doc and according to him, options available are fillers (yup there are permanent fillers available) but if your still uncomfortable there’s corrective surgery. Not sure if you wish to go through that again but he has to see you in person before he can discuss the best solution. Hope that helps.
And I made a mistake on the GA. Actually he injected me with a dose of sedation to sleep through the procedure, he said GA would be too much for eyebag removal. Sorr y abt that. XD
I pm you some photos of my eyes before and after. Just to illustrate my point. U probably understand how I managed to go shopping right after the procedure.
Shirleen
October 7th, 2011 at 2:49 pm
Hi Meixin,
Oh my! I can’t really tell you have just gone through an eyebag surgery on your 2nd pix. The bags are gone and there’s no swelling or bruising at all. I have to say he did a great job!
I’m actually quite keen to go for the cheek fillers too as many doctors have claimed that my cheek bone areas are too flat and thin.
Sparkle
October 8th, 2011 at 8:40 pm
sorry, i feel disturbed by these articles when i tried to read up more about Dr Medora:
http://www.smc.gov.sg/html/MungoBlobs/335/805/01.Press%20Release_Dr%20Zubin%20Medora_4Jan10.pdf
http://sgforums.com/forums/8/topics/362022
is this the same Dr Medora that meixin is talking about?
is it is, i have nothing to say. otherwise, i hope meixin can reply to clear the air
Shirleen
October 9th, 2011 at 3:10 pm
Hi Sparkle,
Oh my! Thanks for highlighting these bad reports!
meixin
October 11th, 2011 at 5:31 pm
Hi Shirleen and Sparkle,
Here I am at Shirleen’s request! Thanks for the links Sparkle, this is the first time I am reading these links but yes I am aware of the “blemish” in Dr M’s record. He personally warned me before I read about it in the news some years ago.
Hmm where do I begin? Well 1st of all, I have been with Dr M since I was 23, I am now 30. That’s 7 long years of patient-doctor relationship! I can understand your concern and alarm because I had once asked myself this question: If I had read this BEFORE I knew Dr M and had surgeries done by him, would I still go to him? Granted, I had always taken media reports with a pinch of salt, knowing how they tend to sensationalize, but there are other competent surgeons about, why take the risk?
But the fact remains I already did my rhinoplasty and buccal fat extraction before this “scandal”, among other numerous non-invasive procedures, with each successful or shall I say amazing operation he did for me, my confidence and trust in him grew.
Let me share another small incident. I wrote earlier I visited Dr AT for a consultation once. It is customary for the surgeon to interview the patient. At the time Dr M was on suspension and his story just broke out in the media, so I was pretty sure everyone in the industry took notice.
Dr AT: Have you had cosmetic procedures before? Which doctor?
Me: Yes, Dr Medora
Dr AT: ohh.. (shows recognition of the name)
Me: He did my rhinoplasty for me, what do you think?
Dr AT: (stumped; studies my nose; nods his head in approval) Well not bad actually.
Referring to the 2nd link Sparkle provided, its actually a forum, there are a few happy satisfied patients jumping out to defend him, so it shows I am not the only one who has benefited from his skills.
If you scroll up to my initial posts, actually I had no intention to reveal my doctor’s name. I was shocked (and disgusted) by Dr Wu’s behavior and that prompted me to comment. It was only after Shirleen asked that I came to share more on my experiences. My original intentions were to be helpful and to share, definitely not to put anybody in a bad situation which doesn’t benefit me in any way so please do not misunderstand. The real me, actually I dislike recommending stuff to other people, even if its good stuff. Because its stressful and results can be subjective. Especially in cosmetic surgery there are always risks involved. That is why when Shirleen informed me she is thinking of visiting Dr M, I wrote back: do let me know how it turns out for you. Because I felt some responsibility for the endorsement and I wish to know she enjoyed great results too so I can rest my mind.
Guess how high the operating costs at Camden Medical Centre are? If Dr M is really as bad as the report says about him, there is absolutely no way for him to have survived, let alone flourished the way he does. This type of scandal would have completely wiped out the career of another doctor with no real substance. But no, the moment he is reinstated, his old loyal customers (me included) came back. No other reason. We simply saw the results on ourselves.
I have forwarded some pics to Shirleen, the results speaks for themselves. If anyone requires maybe Shirleen can pass them on? But please do not forward my email with the pics. My email is personal. I am a very fussy person, Shirleen has seen the photos and agreed that the results are very good. There’s no sign of the non existent indentation I was trying to pick out earlier on, that’s HOW fussy I am. I didn’t even realize how good I had it till I read Shirleen’s ordeal! Sometimes I do give Dr M a hard time with my perfectionist demands :p but I appreciate his a upfront person; he will be brutally honest about what suits me and what doesn’t. He also will turn down anything he is not confident of. For e.g. I wanted cheek implants and he told me his experience is not enough and suggests fillers or another doctor. That’s the kind of straightforward person he is.
Tbh, I never broached the topic with Dr M after I saw him again. On a personal level I knew what a blow it must have been to him so I didn’t want to bring it up. On a business level he is doing a great job on me anyway so I didn’t felt it was an important issue. My guess is that he was careless in citing his website and some jealous competitor caught him out and did his best to get him struck off. As I read in the news that it was doctors instead of patients who filed a complaint against him and earlier on I got wind that patients from other doctor had started to flock to him because his work is good and never overcharges. He is qualified, just his accreditations are not recognized in Singapore. This is my own interpretation. I can’t speak for him. For the liposuction patient, I was originally unaware of this so I can’t comment, but with every surgery there are risks involved and different expectations, every surgeon is bound to have unhappy patients at some point. For e.g If Dr Wu did my eyes like Shirleen I would have made noise too. It wasn’t so much the results that pissed me off, it was the way he treated her, the lack of patient care and responsibility.
Ok that’s all. Woosh once again another long post forgive me! If my credibility is in doubt, I do understand, please forget I ever said anything, its ok! Like I said I was only sharing my own real life encounters!
Shirleen
October 11th, 2011 at 8:12 pm
Hi Meixin,
Hahaha!! You are such a darling! Many thanks for your detail clarification. I truly enjoy reading it.
No worry, I will never reveal my readers’ email to anyone.
Eve
November 20th, 2011 at 3:21 pm
Hi all, I am looking for a good PS for my eyebag removal and chanced upon your exchanges. From what I have seen, there are 2 doctors I should consider seriously: Dr Seah from Gleneagles and Dr M from Camden. May I know the difference in costs and also down time b4 I can go back to work without anyone knowing I have gone for an ops
BA
January 16th, 2012 at 1:33 am
Hi,
Does anyone know of good PS for breat augmentation?
sasa
February 11th, 2012 at 9:36 pm
Hi sparkle. I stumble upon your blog by chance n was reading all these w interest.
I did my eye bag removal w dr seah n my frd did hers w woffles. Must say her recovery was faster n she looked v gd. I m a tad dissatisfied w mine as i feel that the surgery kinda change my eye shape slightly w the elongated cut at the outer eye area. And i cld see a red line appearing at lower lid whenver i feel tired. Initially i was unhappy aft seeing my girlfrd’s results which i tot was btr than mine. But reading abt yours, i realised this is like a gamble. Some wins n some loses. But one comment fr my satisfied girlfrd was she felt like a cattle being herded in for surgery. I guess bcz he is so famous hence he can b arrogant huh?
Margaret
February 13th, 2012 at 4:55 pm
Hi Shirleen
I’ll like to ask mei xin how much it cost her for her eye bag removal with Dr. Medora. Her total cost please.
Thank you.
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